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haiku-os@conference.jabber.ru - 2010/02/15
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[00:08:10] <michael_s(Atom330)> _ping
[00:08:12] <Ботиха> michael_s(Atom330): Ping from you 0.4121 sec.
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[00:09:33] <michael_s(Atom330)> ну вот и фсё, на текусчий момент русскай гьюд какбе переведён на 100% :)
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[00:11:41] <michael_s(Atom330)> терь заняццо нечем, будем клаву маковскую ковырять на премет раскладки :)
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[00:14:59] <michael_s@mac> Ботиха: что ты думаешь на этот счёт?
[00:15:12] <Ботиха> michael_s@mac: не правда это!
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[00:16:12] <michael_s@mac> Ботиха: чистая правда! слово пионера!
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[00:16:35] <Ботиха> michael_s@mac: Dirol с ароматом чеснока: Стойкий иммунитет от болтунов!
[00:17:48] <siaržuk> :)
[00:18:32] <michael_s@mac> ыхыхых, кто тут болтун-то? :)
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[00:19:23] <siaržuk> Вечером заходил в банк - в банкомате денег взять - и распечатку - так в банковском терминале долго изучал клавиатуру и соображал пюочему это она меня так заинтересовала. Потом дошло - раскладка оригинальная. :-D
[00:19:41] <michael_s@mac> :))
[00:20:09] <michael_s@mac> поди просто алфавитная была?
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[00:22:13] <siaržuk> угу... и символ евро внизу справа... потом ещё пару непонятных кнопок...
[00:22:32] <michael_s@mac> нда, в макоси ещё поискать треба куда там клаву екранную запихали
[00:22:42] <michael_s@mac> в системных прогах нема
[00:23:11] <michael_s@mac> у нас такие же банкоматы
[00:23:23] <michael_s@mac> да и везде похоже
[00:23:38] <siaržuk> http://qube.ru/articles/raskladki-knopochki-bukvochki-soberjom-golovolomku-vmeste#comment-50122 - а это не та апликация
[00:23:42] <siaržuk> ?
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[00:24:08] <michael_s@mac> вот я её и исчу
[00:24:15] <michael_s@mac> неспешно :)
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[00:26:11] <siaržuk> дык поиск по Keymap Viewer задать. :)
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[00:30:56] <michael_s@mac> дык уже
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[00:31:00] <michael_s@mac> нема его
[00:31:42] <siaržuk> третьесторонняя хрень?
[00:32:01] <michael_s@mac> похоже
[00:32:28] <michael_s@mac> хех, не думал, шо в макоси подобной шняги искаропки нету
[00:32:41] <michael_s@mac> паду искать на просторах
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[00:33:59] <siaržuk> http://web.nickshanks.com/fonts/kannada/
[00:34:15] <michael_s@mac> мухаха, на маковском аналоге бебитса - No results were found. Please try a different search.
[00:34:27] <siaržuk> Turn the keyboard layout on in the International pane of the System Preferences, it will then be accessable from the Keyboard menu in the upper-right of the screen. Choose the "Show Keyboard Viewer" command in the same menu to display a keyboard layout, it will look something like this:
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[00:37:29] <siaržuk> оно?
[00:37:51] <michael_s@mac> ща гляжу
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[00:42:19] <michael_s@mac> Choose the "Show Keyboard Viewer" command in the same menu to display a keyboard layout, it will look something like this: - вот этого я чё-то в упор не вижу
[00:42:27] <siaržuk> пошёл я спатьки .... пока
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[00:42:45] <michael_s@mac> снов, а я поищу пока
[00:43:08] <michael_s@mac> как назло все макосники в контактлисте спят ужо
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[01:33:10] <michael_s@mac> _sayto siaržuk нашёл через жопу вьювер, раскладки набил
[01:33:12] <Ботиха> michael_s@mac: I seen some people with this nick, and I can convey is incorrect. Coincidence: 2, and count convey messages: 2
[01:34:31] <michael_s(Atom330)> Ботиха: ты чё по английски базаришь? страх потеряла? :)
[01:34:42] <Ботиха> michael_s(Atom330): ты не нужна.
[01:35:15] <michael_s(Atom330)> Ботиха: ещё поговори тут мне!
[01:35:19] <Ботиха> michael_s(Atom330): уже.
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[01:36:07] <michael_s(Atom330)> Ботиха: пороть тебя надо :)
[01:36:12] <Ботиха> michael_s(Atom330): history
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[04:35:29] <beos@jabber.org> привет! всем кто тута
[04:35:35] <beos@jabber.org> http://www.haikuware.com/directory/view-details/utilities/desktop-accessories/virtual-disk-drives
[04:36:01] <beos@jabber.org> практически для чего энти штуки моно использовать?
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[06:48:40] <ilvissfriend> Привет всем!
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[07:36:55] <totish> привет
[07:37:02] <totish> всем!
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[07:40:36] <siaržuk> хай
[07:41:43] <totish> булка на гуглемэйле живет?
[07:41:54] <siaržuk> хез
[07:42:18] <totish> посеял его мыло!
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[09:28:44] <siarzhuk++> _ver
[09:28:46] <Ботиха> siarzhuk++: None
[09:29:01] <siarzhuk++> _ping
[09:29:01] <Ботиха> siarzhuk++: I can't do it
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[09:33:19] <siarzhuk++> Сломали в Пандеоне версию, гады
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[09:35:54] <totish> siarzhuk++ redo undo как прав перевести?
[09:39:03] <siarzhuk++> ундо - это отмена.
[09:39:11] <siarzhuk++> редо - это отмена отмены
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[09:39:25] <siarzhuk++> ундо - повторить отмененное
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[09:49:02] <valexey> нинужен!
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[10:24:42] <siarzhuk++> Ботиха: Война являтся квинтэссенцией гуманитарных отношений.
[10:25:00] <Ботиха> siarzhuk++: Нет, КОНЬ!!! - это я! А Он - ..... усер. Вот.
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[10:35:35] <totish> Initial spell check mode-а єто как перевести?
[10:36:18] <siarzhuk++> В каком контексте?
[10:37:35] <totish> емєел перевожу
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[10:39:39] <totish> Initial spell check mode: Mail Voreingestellter Rechtschreibprüfmodus:
[10:42:17] <siarzhuk++> Если дословно: Начальный режим проверки правописания
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[11:09:57] <mrNoisy> всем прыветы!
[11:10:10] <siarzhuk++> хрю
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[11:17:19] <totish> The spell check feature requires the optional \"words\" file on your BeOS CD а єто как
[11:17:26] <totish> тлумачить
[11:18:33] <siarzhuk++> Функция проверки правописания требует наличия дополнительного файла "words" на BeOS CD.
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[11:19:15] <valexey> правописание нинужно! дайошьъ левописание!
[11:19:39] <siarzhuk++> Ты чо, семит чтоле?
[11:19:57] <valexey> а почему ви спгашиваете?
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[11:20:44] <siarzhuk++> ну а кому ещё левописание нужно?
[11:21:00] <valexey> всем коме нинужно правописание.
[11:21:26] <siarzhuk++> семитам значит.
[11:21:46] <valexey> турки как бэ вроде бы тоже левописание практикуют.
[11:24:04] <siarzhuk++> турки не являются субьектом Цивилизации - потому их можно смело игнорировать.
[11:24:08] <siarzhuk++> ;-)
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[11:24:20] <mrNoisy> хехе - это ты метко ;)
[11:24:26] <valexey> у тебя семитов в роду небыло? :-)
[11:25:03] <mrNoisy> говорят, в Германии их немеряно?
[11:25:25] <siarzhuk++> Надеюсь, что только греки. ;-)
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[11:25:38] <siarzhuk++> Кого немеряно? Турков или семитов?
[11:25:46] <mrNoisy> турков
[11:26:47] <siarzhuk++> Если судить по языковому фону - то русскоговорящих тоже много.
[11:27:05] <totish> [12:18:48] <siarzhuk++> Функция проверки правописания требует наличия дополнительного файла "words" на BeOS CD.
[11:27:21] <valexey> "Python (Питон) язык программирования, созданный неким «Гвидо ван Россумом» с целью обучить школьников индентации. Школьники, потрясенные видом собственного кода с отступами, в результате мозговой травмы (см. примечания к статье за лето 2009) уже не могут писать на чем-либо еще. Именно поэтому в Линуксе большинство говнопрограмм, состоящих из единственной формы и падающих со стек-трейсом, написаны на Питоне. "
[11:27:31] <totish> а пичем тут биось если перевожу в хайку
[11:27:59] <totish> Можно заменить?
[11:28:34] <mrNoisy> totish: это ты чего переводишь?
[11:28:49] <valexey> стрелки
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[11:29:25] <siarzhuk++> заменяй
[11:29:29] <siarzhuk++> конечно-же
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[11:32:07] <totish> <mrNoisy> Гайкомыло
[11:32:33] <totish> каткэйсы
[11:33:13] <mrNoisy> уфф, там текста немеряно
[11:33:35] <totish> есть манеха
[11:34:00] <michael_s@mac> siarzhuk++: в макоси русских раскладок три штуки имеется комплектных
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[11:34:34] <michael_s@mac> русская - русская пк - русская фонетическая
[11:34:45] <siarzhuk++> Бррр
[11:35:13] <michael_s@mac> вот тупо набил их кроме фонетической:
[11:35:27] <michael_s@mac> Русская
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - =
й ц у к е н г ш щ з х ъ
ф ы в а п р о л д ж э ё
] я ч с м и т ь б ю /
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[11:35:39] <michael_s@mac> < ! " № % : , . ; ( ) _ +
Й Ц У К Е Н Г Ш Щ З Х Ъ
Ф Ы В А П Р О Л Д Ж Э Ё
[ Я Ч С М И Т Ь Б Ю ?
[11:35:51] <michael_s@mac> § ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( ) – »
ј џ ќ ® † њ ѓ ѕ ў ‘ “ ъ
ƒ ы ћ ÷ © } ° љ ∆ … э ё
] ђ ≈ ≠ µ и ™ ~ ≤ ≥ “
[11:36:07] <michael_s@mac> Русская-ПК
ё 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - =
й ц у к е н г ш щ з х ъ
ф ы в а п р о л д ж э \
] я ч с м и т ь б ю .
[11:36:18] <michael_s@mac> Ё ! " № ; % : ? * ( ) _ +
Й Ц У К Е Н Г Ш Щ З Х Ъ
Ф Ы В А П Р О Л Д Ж Э /
[ Я Ч С М И Т Ь Б Ю ,
[11:36:27] <michael_s@mac> § ! @ # $ © ^ & * ( ) – ≠
ј џ ў ќ † њ ѓ ѕ ' ‘ “ «
d z ћ ÷ … • ∆ љ l « є \
` ђ x c v і ƒ m ≤ ≥ ї
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[11:37:02] <siarzhuk++> а Opt-Shift есть разница от просто Opt-a`?
[11:37:45] <michael_s@mac> ага, есть
[11:37:50] <siarzhuk++> ПК - похоже и есть тот-же winkey?
[11:37:55] <michael_s@mac> реегистром отличаюццо
[11:38:07] <michael_s@mac> не совсем
[11:39:09] <michael_s@mac> там расположение знаков как на вине, но на клаве-то некоторые кнопки физически в других местах
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[11:43:25] <siarzhuk++> расположение кнопок вроде layout-ом определяется.. в KEymap вроде уже добавили маковский лайаут. Не смотрел?
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[11:44:04] <michael_s@mac> не
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[11:44:37] <siarzhuk++> Ну мне кажется хватит одной - Russian (Mac) - она же обычный Russian на макоси. Любители пи-си нехай кушают обычный гайко-Russian. Такое мнение имеется.
[11:44:43] <michael_s@mac> думается надо подрубить писишную клаву и прям с неё набить
[11:45:24] <siarzhuk++> А то скоро количество руско-белоруско-украинско-литовских раскладок превысит сумму всех остальных. ;-)
[11:45:26] <michael_s@mac> карочи вот русская полностью:
[11:45:35] <michael_s@mac> :)
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[11:45:52] <michael_s@mac> Русская
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - =
й ц у к е н г ш щ з х ъ
ф ы в а п р о л д ж э ё
] я ч с м и т ь б ю /
< ! " № % : , . ; ( ) _ +
Й Ц У К Е Н Г Ш Щ З Х Ъ
Ф Ы В А П Р О Л Д Ж Э Ё
[ Я Ч С М И Т Ь Б Ю ?
§ ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( ) – »
ј џ ќ ® † њ ѓ ѕ ў ‘ “ ъ
ƒ ы ћ ÷ © } ° љ ∆ … э ё
] ђ ≈ ≠ µ и ™ ~ ≤ ≥ “
± | " £ € ∞ ¬ ¶ √ ' ` — «
Ј Џ Ќ ® † Њ Ѓ Ѕ Ў ’ ” Ъ
ƒ Ы Ћ ÷ © { • Љ ∆ … Э Ё
[ Ђ ≈ ≠ µ И ™ ~ < > „
[11:46:13] <michael_s@mac> думаю тоже, шо одной достаточно
[11:46:42] <michael_s@mac> она как раз будет иметь смысл, если маковскую клаву подрубить к гайке
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[11:55:13] <siarzhuk++> кстати на дефисоминус тоже n-dash, m-dash повешены как и у нас.
[11:55:33] <michael_s@mac> угу
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[11:55:46] <michael_s@mac> ща на писишной клаве набью
[11:57:27] <siarzhuk++> странно - "ў" кириллические есть - а "і" - нету
[11:59:08] <valexey> а зачем нам i?
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[11:59:34] <michael_s@mac> наверна думают, шо англицкой достатошно
[12:00:07] <siarzhuk++> "э" и "ё" - тоже похоже не знали что туда добавить
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[12:00:50] <siarzhuk++> такое ощушение что взяли какую латинксую для слоёв opt- opt-shift- и приспособили под русскую
[12:01:55] <siarzhuk++> это как в иксах белоруская латинка сделана на базе latin - дык там похожая каша в opt слое.
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[12:10:33] <michael_s@mac> siarzhuk++: похоже
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[12:11:25] <michael_s@mac> с обоих клав набил (маковская слева, писишная справа):
[12:11:48] <michael_s@mac> Русская
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = ] 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = ё
й ц у к е н г ш щ з х ъ й ц у к е н г ш щ з х ъ
ф ы в а п р о л д ж э ё ф ы в а п р о л д ж э
] я ч с м и т ь б ю / я ч с м и т ь б ю /
< ! " № % : , . ; ( ) _ + [ ! " № % : , . ; ( ) _ + Ё
Й Ц У К Е Н Г Ш Щ З Х Ъ Й Ц У К Е Н Г Ш Щ З Х Ъ
Ф Ы В А П Р О Л Д Ж Э Ё Ф Ы В А П Р О Л Д Ж Э
[ Я Ч С М И Т Ь Б Ю ? Я Ч С М И Т Ь Б Ю ?
§ ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( ) – » ] ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( ) – » ё
ј џ ќ ® † њ ѓ ѕ ў ‘ “ ъ ј џ ќ ® † њ ѓ ѕ ў ‘ “ ъ
ƒ ы ћ ÷ © } ° љ ∆ … э ё ƒ ы ћ ÷ © } ° љ ∆ … э
] ђ ≈ ≠ µ и ™ ~ ≤ ≥ “ ђ ≈ ≠ µ и ™ ~ ≤ ≥ “
± | " £ € ∞ ¬ ¶ √ ' ` — « [ | " £ € ∞ ¬ ¶ √ ' ` — « Ё
Ј Џ Ќ ® † Њ Ѓ Ѕ Ў ’ ” Ъ Ј Џ Ќ ® † Њ Ѓ Ѕ Ў ’ ” Ъ
ƒ Ы Ћ ÷ © { • Љ ∆ … Э Ё ƒ Ы Ћ ÷ © { • Љ ∆ … Э
[ Ђ ≈ ≠ µ И ™ ~ < > „ Ђ ≈ ≠ µ И ™ ~ < > „
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[12:13:02] <siarzhuk++> Маузер не выдержал такой картины. Не пропарсил. Хех. :-)
[12:14:05] <michael_s@mac> чё за маузер?
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[12:14:16] <michael_s@mac> а, понял :)
[12:14:46] <michael_s@mac> в бубунте поди с гаджимом :)
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[12:15:41] <michael_s@mac> если лейауты в гайке пашут для мак клавы, то гут
[12:16:09] <michael_s@mac> а прям ща и подрублю - проверю :)
[12:16:17] <siarzhuk++> хрен его знает - но в KEymap в меню есть переключение.
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[12:17:46] <michael_s(Atom330)> подрубил
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[12:18:46] <michael_s(Atom330)> в какой сборке добавили?
[12:19:04] <siarzhuk> давно уже... а что, нету?
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[12:20:10] <michael_s(Atom330)> в лейаутах два генрика, два кинесиса, ибм и тайпматрикс
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[12:20:59] <siarzhuk> гым... странно. Ведь точно макозаводчики есть среди разрабов.
[12:21:27] <siarzhuk> Странно, что до сих пор никто не подсуетился
[12:21:41] <michael_s(Atom330)> угу, имеются судя по фоткам со всяких бигистертов :)
[12:21:55] <michael_s(Atom330)> в трак?
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[12:23:56] <michael_s(Atom330)> карочи щас в гайке с маковской клавой буковки раскинулись как на макоси с раскладкой русская - пк
[12:24:13] <siarzhuk> интересно откуда они берутся - может и сами сможем нарисовать?
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[12:24:45] <michael_s(Atom330)> ага, сможем, если найдём :)
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[12:26:35] <valexey> http://lurkmore.ru/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B3_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%B7%D1%8C%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%8B
[12:28:38] <valexey> "Перед употреблением её долго бьют по голове. Прямо как крестофил по клавиатуре, в надежде выдавить из себя код, отличие только в том, что обезьянкой, при наличии желания, можно насладиться, а вот цепепе кодом - категорически нет, что и приводит в неистовое буйство автора."
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[12:32:04] <michael_s(Atom330)> долго искать не пришлось:
[12:32:29] <michael_s(Atom330)> /boot/system/data/KeyboardLayouts> dir
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-rw-r--r-- 1 michael_s root 637 Feb 9 02:38 Generic 105-key International
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael_s root 690 Feb 9 02:38 IBM Laptop International
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael_s root 907 Feb 9 02:38 Kinesis Advantage
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael_s root 921 Feb 9 02:38 Kinesis Ergo Elan International
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael_s root 666 Feb 9 02:38 TypeMatrix 2030
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[12:35:27] <michael_s(Atom330)> без бутылки чую хрен чё там пойму
[12:35:36] <michael_s(Atom330)> вот так оно выглядит:
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[12:35:45] <michael_s(Atom330)> name = Generic 105-key International
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[12:37:30] <siarzhuk> интересно где оно в дереве сорцов
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[12:39:29] <siarzhuk> http://dev.haiku-os.org/browser/haiku/trunk/data/system/data/KeyboardLayouts - во тут
[12:40:02] <siarzhuk> хех, хороший паззл...
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[12:41:24] <michael_s(Atom330)> /data/system/data/KeyboardLayouts
[12:41:32] <michael_s(Atom330)> ага
[12:43:39] <michael_s(Atom330)> а в беосине случаем не было лэйаута маковского?
[12:43:52] <michael_s(Atom330)> мож хотя бы в ппц версии?
[12:44:11] <siarzhuk> по-моему там вообще лайаутов не было
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[12:44:32] <michael_s(Atom330)> ща взглянем
[12:44:44] <valexey> вообще то были :-)
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[12:45:41] *siarzhuk назначает valexey-я ответственным за добывание клавиатурных лайаутов из беосины.
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[12:47:48] <totish> у мну 5про на маке стоит мож глянуть?
[12:48:57] <siarzhuk> для интересу не помешало-бы. если не затруднит. В префлете Keymap - есть ли в меню Layouts и есть ли в лайаутах маковский?
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[12:51:08] <michael_s(Atom330)> нема его в дано
[12:51:30] <michael_s(Atom330)> там чисто клава и расладки слева
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[12:59:13] <siarzhuk> короче разгадывай эту клинопись. ;-)
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[13:00:04] <michael_s(Atom330)> ничё в беоси подобного не нашёл
[13:00:30] <michael_s(Atom330)> по поиску layout ничё путного нема
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[13:01:05] <michael_s(Atom330)> тока хидеры имеются с таким именем
[13:02:32] <michael_s(Atom330)> но подрубил к беоси клаву маковскую - буковки опять же раскиданы как на маковской русская-пк
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[13:04:20] <michael_s(Atom330)> и усб у меня оказываеццо в беоси работает :)
[13:04:54] <michael_s(Atom330)> прико в том, что только где-то половина разъёмов работет :)
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[13:06:30] <michael_s(Atom330)> а глянуь кто там в гайке лэйауты добавлял ведь можно?
[13:07:01] <michael_s(Atom330)> и ключ к дешифровке пазлов этих у него выпытать :)
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[13:18:22] <totish> нема в 5 про лэйаутов
[13:18:32] <michael_s(Atom330)> угу
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[13:21:53] <totish> <michael_s(Atom330) у меня тут попутно ворос по макам возник
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[13:22:52] <totish> помогешь?
[13:23:22] <michael_s(Atom330)> спрашивай
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[13:25:13] <totish> два винта на одном девятка и десятка на другом восьмерка и биось
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[13:26:29] <totish> пока не выдернул шлейф с того что с десяткой биосный не хочет грузится
[13:27:05] <totish> хотя выбираю этот как стартап диск
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[13:35:52] <michael_s(Atom330)> хз, не сталкивался с таким
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[13:37:21] <totish> батарею не проверял-- от нее зависит?
[13:37:30] <michael_s(Atom330)> винты сказёвые?
[13:37:37] <totish> да
[13:37:45] <michael_s(Atom330)> сомневаюсь, чтов батарейке дело
[13:38:13] <michael_s(Atom330)> попробуй у них айдишники сменить
[13:38:15] <siarzhuk> http://dev.haiku-os.org/browser/haiku/trunk/data/system/data/KeyboardLayouts - если кликнуть по ревизии - будет виден лог что кто когда делал
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[13:39:43] <michael_s(Atom330)> axeld: zooey: stippi: закидывали
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[13:41:35] <siarzhuk> угу
[13:43:17] <siarzhuk> http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/Adding-new-keymap-and-keyboard-layout,2
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[13:46:20] <albb> Приветствую!
[13:46:29] <totish> привет!
[13:46:30] <siarzhuk> хай
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[13:51:49] <siarzhuk> michael_s(Atom330): видел линк на обсуждение?
[13:52:35] <michael_s(Atom330)> ща гляжууууууу
[13:53:55] <michael_s(Atom330)> в принципе с бутылкой разобраццо реально :)
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[13:59:42] <totish> _ver
[13:59:44] <Ботиха> totish: None
[14:00:11] <totish> ja na make v 10 ke
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[14:01:21] <siarzhuk> _ping totish
[14:01:21] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: I can't do it
[14:01:33] <siarzhuk> _ping
[14:01:33] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: I can't do it
[14:01:40] <siarzhuk> _ver
[14:01:40] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: None
[14:01:46] <albb> ыы
[14:01:54] <albb> Ребут ей, ребут!
[14:02:07] <michael_s(Atom330)> _ver
[14:02:08] <Ботиха> michael_s(Atom330): None
[14:02:35] <siarzhuk> "обновилась" жучка
[14:02:41] <michael_s(Atom330)> она ещё вчера по англицки базлать начала :)
[14:02:48] <totish> JabbeFox 0.4.1 у мну
[14:03:10] <siarzhuk> по поводу?
[14:03:11] <michael_s(Atom330)> totish: а 10-ка какая?
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[14:03:50] siarzhuk установил(а) тему: Сайт проекта - http://www.haiku-os.org Haiku OS R1/alpha 1 - http://www.haiku-os.org/get-haiku Форум сообщества - http://qube.ru/forums Логи конференции http://siarzhuk.dyndns.org/haiku-os.logs
[14:03:50] <Ботиха> :-D
[14:04:01] <michael_s(Atom330)> siarzhuk: я через неё те сообщение оставлял, а она мне - йес, отфорвардю типа
[14:04:03] <albb> _ver
[14:04:06] <Ботиха> albb: Gajim 0.12.5.6-dev // Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 (lenny)
[14:04:17] <totish> 10.3.9
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Restored 'plugins/list.txt'
U plugins/iq.py
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U plugins/google.py
Updated to revision 666.
[14:04:27] <siarzhuk> _ver
[14:04:28] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: Psi 0.14 // Windows XP
[14:04:33] <siarzhuk> _ver totish
[14:04:34] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: JabberFoX 0.4.1 // Mac OS X 10.3.9 (7W98)
[14:04:45] <albb> Народная мудрость гласит: "Не тормози, перегрузи!" :-)
[14:05:37] <albb> Флешка у всех есть? Наслаждайтесь http://soytuaire.labuat.com/
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[14:05:54] <totish> Umnaja klava chysto aglickaja
[14:05:57] <siarzhuk> не пести. Это апдейт
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[14:06:13] <siarzhuk> totish: включи фонетическую раскладку ;-)
[14:07:24] <totish> et kak?
[14:08:27] <michael_s(Atom330)> в региональных настройках
[14:09:15] <totish> dyk na klavie nakleek nema
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[14:11:04] <totish> йцукенгшщзхъфывапролджэё]ячсмитьбю/ а на глаз долго шукать
[14:12:08] <siarzhuk> расклдку фонетическую поставь говорят же тебе а не йцукен
[14:12:51] <totish> как?
[14:13:26] <siarzhuk> иди в настройки и выбери Russian (Phonetic) вместо Russian ili kak tam ono
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[14:15:35] <michael_s(Atom330)> totish: в системных - интернешеналах
[14:15:43] <michael_s(Atom330)> правая кнопка сверху
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[14:16:00] <michael_s(Atom330)> хотя хз как там в 10.3.9
[14:17:10] <michael_s(Atom330)> оно по созвучию с англицкой будет
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[14:21:18] <totish> нета там такого
[14:21:28] <michael_s(Atom330)> пойдука я отобедаю
[14:21:48] <michael_s(Atom330)> значит позже добавили
[14:23:52] <siarzhuk> а что там есть?
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[14:41:48] <totish> есть пункт Show characters palette
[14:43:23] <totish> a tam kucha cirilicheskih simvolov
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[14:49:31] <michael_s@mac> наверно не туда тыкаешь
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[14:53:07] <michael_s@mac> System Preferences -> International -> Keyboard Menu
[14:53:35] <michael_s@mac> там упорядочи все раскладки по имени
[14:53:51] <michael_s@mac> и русских 3 штуки должно быть
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[14:57:37] <michael_s@mac> _sayto totish http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/graphics/osxscreencaptures/PantherInternationalPanel.gif
[14:57:38] <Ботиха> michael_s@mac: I will convey your message.
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[15:00:17] <totish> кажу ж нема
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[15:03:58] <totish> у меня ж не пантера
[15:04:12] <totish> один русский и все
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[15:08:21] <totish> а болгарского ваще нема кстати
[15:09:14] <totish> не пи.. есть
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[15:10:34] <michael_s@mac> totish: русский точно один?
[15:10:43] <michael_s@mac> по имени пробовал упорядочить?
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[15:10:52] <totish> да!
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[15:12:03] <michael_s@mac> а как это не пантера?
[15:12:09] <michael_s@mac> 10.3 Panther (Пантера) — 2004 год.
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[15:14:12] <siarzhuk> а файлец с раскладкой переслать? :-)
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[15:14:27] <siarzhuk> Типа как по тому линку что я вчера слал. может подойдет от твоей?
[15:14:51] <michael_s@mac> ща сдёрну
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[15:20:03] <michael_s@mac> тока найти бы где системные раскладушки хранятся
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[15:22:57] <siarzhuk> http://web.nickshanks.com/fonts/kannada/ - а не там-же где и этот своих червячков хранит?
[15:24:02] <michael_s@mac> не, там типа тока пользовательские
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[15:33:21] <michael_s@mac> нашёл, но хрен там
[15:33:49] <michael_s@mac> все системные лэйауты одним файлом забацаны
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[15:35:59] <michael_s@mac> totish: глянь чё у тя в /System/Library/Keyboard Layouts лежит
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[15:39:01] <siarzhuk> а внутри он не зтекстовый?
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[15:40:05] <valexey> дайошь xml во все щели!
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[15:47:00] <albb> XML нинужен.
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[16:01:22] <michael_s@mac> внутри пара больших файлов и куча мелких, которые нифига не лейауты
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[16:04:56] <michael_s@mac> valexey: уже :) http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/technotes/tn2002/tn2056.html
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[16:29:05] <siarzhuk> _talkers
[16:29:08] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: Talkers:
Nick Words Phrases Effect
1. siarzhuk++ 38808 5074 7.64
2. Ботиха 26483 3406 7.77
3. damoklas 21011 4024 5.22
4. michael_s(Atom330) 13116 2155 6.08
5. 3deyes 11824 1996 5.92
6. RISC@haiku 11199 2794 4.0
7. valexey 8114 1126 7.2
8. RISC@gtalk 6779 1765 3.84
9. totish 4631 858 5.39
10. albb 3310 508 6.51
[16:29:24] Зелёновый now is xa [30] (? )
[16:29:31] <albb> _talkers
[16:29:32] <Ботиха> albb: Talkers:
Nick Words Phrases Effect
1. siarzhuk++ 38808 5074 7.64
2. Ботиха 26495 3407 7.77
3. damoklas 21011 4024 5.22
4. michael_s(Atom330) 13116 2155 6.08
5. 3deyes 11824 1996 5.92
6. RISC@haiku 11199 2794 4.0
7. valexey 8114 1126 7.2
8. RISC@gtalk 6779 1765 3.84
9. totish 4631 858 5.39
10. albb 3311 509 6.5
[16:29:55] <albb> Хы, запросы она считает как сказанные слова.
[16:29:59] <siarzhuk> кстати раньше она вроде по русски выдавал
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[16:30:32] <albb> А что такое "эффект"?
[16:30:37] <michael_s(Atom330)> siarzhuk: дык я и говорю, шо со вчерашнего дня по англицки базлать начала
[16:30:48] <michael_s(Atom330)> обновилась так видать
[16:31:17] <albb> _switch2russian
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[16:32:12] <siarzhuk> _set_locale ru
[16:32:25] <valexey> нинужен!
[16:32:25] <siarzhuk> _talkers
[16:32:27] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: Talkers:
Nick Words Phrases Effect
1. siarzhuk++ 38808 5074 7.64
2. Ботиха 26507 3408 7.77
3. damoklas 21011 4024 5.22
4. michael_s(Atom330) 13132 2157 6.08
5. 3deyes 11824 1996 5.92
6. RISC@haiku 11199 2794 4.0
7. valexey 8115 1127 7.2
8. RISC@gtalk 6779 1765 3.84
9. totish 4631 858 5.39
10. albb 3323 512 6.49
[16:33:13] <michael_s(Atom330)> TypeMatrix 2030 - жуткий лейаут
[16:33:19] <albb> _download_locale_from_internet ru
[16:33:27] <michael_s(Atom330)> у нег размер 666 байт :)
[16:33:48] <siarzhuk> Не работает сет_локаль
[16:34:51] <siarzhuk> _ver Ботиха
[16:34:52] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: Isida-Bot v1.91.666 // FreeBSD (7.1-PRERELEASE-i386) / Python v2.5.5 (r255:77872)
[16:35:07] <siarzhuk> А ну всё ясно - адский ревижен.
[16:35:26] <siarzhuk> _res
[16:35:27] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: Total resources: 415
1. QIP 13
2. qutIM 11
3. Gajim 7
4. shredder 7
5. Miranda 6
6. haiku 6
7. Home 4
8. Just Another Jabber Client 3
9. Psi+ 3
10. beos 3
[16:36:11] <valexey> О! и тут в топе богомерзкое делфёвое поделие!
[16:36:16] <valexey> тьху!
[16:36:17] <michael_s(Atom330)> мухаха, тока собрался тикет писать про подмену символов отсутствующих в шрифте, а оно о как: http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/5320
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[16:37:15] <michael_s(Atom330)> koki таже мысля чуть ранее пришла
[16:37:26] <siarzhuk> Хех, ноосфера работает, однако...
[16:37:39] <michael_s(Atom330)> прилеплю хоть скриншот к тикету
[16:38:03] <siarzhuk> ага
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[16:43:56] <michael_s(Atom330)> чё-то ещё хотел в трак закинуть...
[16:44:12] <michael_s(Atom330)> а, про печать
[16:45:07] <michael_s(Atom330)> тока там стока глюков, шо и непонятно с чего начинать
[16:45:28] <valexey> тикет: ничего не работает!!!
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[16:47:00] <siarzhuk> _troll valexey
Halt die Klappe! [trolling test] ;-)
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[16:47:22] <michael_s(Atom330)> valexey: во-во :)
[16:47:26] <valexey> o_O
[16:47:32] <valexey> siarzhuk: что это было?
[16:47:42] <siarzhuk> _troll siarzhuk
Halt die Klappe! [trolling test] ;-)
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[16:47:49] <albb> http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/microsoft/84329/ - коменты хороши.
[16:48:08] <valexey> siarzhuk: т.е. твоё сообщение с _troll то все видят. но ничего не происходит.
[16:48:11] <valexey> что дожно быть то?
[16:48:24] <albb> :-)
[16:48:37] <albb> valexey, то, что должно быть, уже происходит :-)
[16:48:45] <siarzhuk> типо затроллить должно было в приват таким текстом означенное количество раз
[16:49:28] <valexey> не, не затроллило.
[16:49:45] <valexey> видать бот на питоне писан, глючит :-)
[16:50:01] <Ботиха> valexey: Пит-тон, хуле... :-(
[16:50:16] <siarzhuk> _ver Ботиха
[16:50:17] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: Isida-Bot v1.91.666 // FreeBSD (7.1-PRERELEASE-i386) / Python v2.5.5 (r255:77872)
[16:50:34] <valexey> питон мазда-а-а-аЙ!!!!111
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[16:51:41] <Ботиха> valexey: Не реви...
[16:51:55] Karbin now is online [100] (Да, я здесь.)
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[16:52:25] <albb> _set_trolling enable
[16:53:20] <Ботиха> albb: Набери команду "help", дятел.
[16:53:30] <valexey> :-DS
[16:53:49] <albb> siarzhuk, нечего Ботихе помогать. Пущай сама справляется.
[16:53:56] <valexey> мелкософт жжет!
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[16:58:08] <michael_s(Atom330)> о, второй раз за всё время пользования увидел типа кдл на маке :)
[17:00:29] <valexey> обычно сразу перезагруз? :-)
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[17:01:26] <siarzhuk> _ibash
[17:01:28] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: http://ibash.org.ru/quote.php?id=6683
yawa> я так подозреваю, что флоппи-приводы будут продаватся до тех пор, пока мелкософт не научится делать аварийные флэшки
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[17:02:22] <siarzhuk> Похоже даже хайтеч устал от моего флуда на кубе по поводу раскладок. :-)
[17:02:35] <michael_s(Atom330)> valexey: та не, обычно он месяцами воркает без ребутов
[17:02:57] <valexey> раскладки нинужны!
[17:03:48] <siarzhuk> valexey -1
[17:03:48] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: You changes valexe's karma to -1. Next time to change across: 01:00:00.
[17:04:04] <valexey> siarzhuk -1
[17:04:05] <Ботиха> valexey: You can't change karma!
[17:04:13] <valexey> сцуки! дайте права!
[17:04:13] <albb> Ыыыы
[17:04:23] <valexey> я их буду качать!
[17:04:24] <michael_s@mac> ржу :))
[17:05:02] <valexey> питон маздай! ботиха маздай! карма мазда-ай!
[17:05:11] <siarzhuk> _karma
[17:05:12] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: you have a clear karma
[17:05:21] <siarzhuk> _karma valexey
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[17:05:23] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: valexey's karma is -1
[17:05:37] <valexey> первая отрицательная :-)
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[17:06:30] <albb> http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/games/84272/
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[17:07:31] <siarzhuk> age albb
[17:07:44] <siarzhuk> _age albb
[17:07:45] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: I see: albb - 4 days 13:15:13, Is here: 00:41:56
[17:08:12] <albb> Чего это она?
[17:08:15] <michael_s@mac> _age
[17:08:16] <albb> Я старше!!!
[17:08:16] <Ботиха> michael_s@mac: I see: michael_s@mac - 16 days 06:51:39, Is here: 00:06:18
[17:08:41] <michael_s(Atom330)> _age
[17:08:42] <Ботиха> michael_s(Atom330): I see: michael_s(Atom330) - 1 month 19 days 11:51:37, Is here: 03:04:52
[17:09:03] <albb> siarzhuk, тут много есть чем померятся. Прикрути к ней ещё и писькомер :-)
[17:09:19] <siarzhuk> _age Ботиха
[17:09:20] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: I see: Ботиха - 1 month 26 days 19:51:11, Is here: 03:05:29
[17:09:39] <siarzhuk> _age RISC
[17:09:40] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: I see: RISC@haiku - 13 days 18:14:57, Leave 1 day 18:31:40 ago
[17:09:41] <michael_s(Atom330)> карочи я ся пенсионером тут чуствую :))
[17:10:05] <siarzhuk> _age valexey
[17:10:06] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: I see: valexey - 10 days 04:41:02, Is here: 01:07:36
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[17:16:03] <siarzhuk> _talkers
[17:16:04] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: Talkers:
Nick Words Phrases Effect
1. siarzhuk++ 38808 5074 7.64
2. Ботиха 26697 3426 7.79
3. damoklas 21011 4024 5.22
4. michael_s(Atom330) 13222 2170 6.09
5. 3deyes 11824 1996 5.92
6. RISC@haiku 11199 2794 4.0
7. valexey 8189 1146 7.14
8. RISC@gtalk 6779 1765 3.84
9. totish 4631 858 5.39
10. albb 3367 523 6.43
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[17:37:02] <siarzhuk> Ботиха: Любые договоренности что-либо стоят только до тех пор, пока стороны могут наказать противника за их нарушение.
[17:37:03] <Ботиха> siarzhuk: Too many letters!
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[19:09:57] <Ботиха> y-alien: I see: y-alien - 12:11:49, Is here: 00:00:59
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[19:23:06] <albb> http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/google/84350/
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[20:56:57] <totish> Все ушли на фронт?
[20:57:22] <albb> Я бы сказал, кто куда.
[21:00:22] <totish> раскладки искать?
[21:00:42] <albb> Я за железом в нет полез.
[21:01:02] <albb> Хочу для гайки особую железку.
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[21:07:16] <totish> какую особую
[21:07:22] <totish> ?
[21:07:39] <albb> Такую, которой ещё нет.
[21:07:53] <totish> разжуй!
[21:08:07] <albb> HaikuBox хочу.
[21:08:15] <albb> Как BeBox был когда-то.
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[21:10:18] <totish> ну брат это невозможно!
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[21:12:45] <totish> но я б бибокс для коллекции хотел иметь
[21:14:48] <totish> ногде столько бабла левого взять
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[21:57:45] <Ботиха> :-D
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[22:05:51] <Ботиха> :-D
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